select a.ext_id ,substring_index(substring_index(a.dept_ids,',',b.help_topic_id+1),',',-1)
from (
select ext_id, REPLACE(REPLACE(REPLACE(descendant_ext_ids,"\"",""), '[',''), ']', '') as dept_ids
from department where parent_ext_id = 1
) a
join
mysql.help_topic b
on b.help_topic_id < (length(a.dept_ids) - length(replace(a.dept_ids,',',''))+1);